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March 26, 2004
do as we say not as we do
Choked out"The United States has lost a controversial attempt to extradite accused warez-scene participant Hew Raymond Griffiths, a.k.a. Bandido, from Australia to face charges in the United States. The ruling came nearly a week earlier than expected." Moe:australian IT
slashdot asks the 64 thousand dollar question, "One wonders how the US government would react if a foreign nation tried a similar approach."
(later on in the day Slashdot posted a link to U.S. online-gambling ban violates international trade laws, WTO rules with this wonderful quote: "It's appalling," said Rep. Bob Goodlatte, R-Va. "It cannot be allowed to stand that another nation can impose its values on the U.S. and make it a trade issue.")
Posted by parody at March 26, 2004 06:01 PM
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I wonder if that Glaudette guy knew he was being ironic
Posted by: Oakey at March 26, 2004 07:48 PM
Good morning ffej. Thank you for endless support.
HJB
Posted by: hjb at March 27, 2004 08:14 AM
The U.S. generally has no problem surrendering its citizens for extradition to foreign countries (at least for those with which we have extradition treaties -- and we have such treaties with more countries than not.)
And, given the USG's attitude to infringement (it is a leading advocate for enforcement worldwide,) I suspect the USG would be happy to extradite a U.S. national for infringement.
So, don't gasp in horror when it happens, and act as if something extraordinary is happenning, as it probably will happen.
It's not that I don't care. I do. But I could tell you much worse horror stories about extradition. Extraditing an infringer is not a big deal in context.
And it is funny to see those free traders get upset when the trade being freed is somethiing they find morally offensive.
Posted by: Great Satan at March 29, 2004 04:13 PM
"So, don't gasp in horror when it happens, and act as if something extraordinary is happenning, as it probably will happen."
those words will come back to haunt you...
Posted by: ffej at March 29, 2004 04:20 PM
"free traders" who are also religious fundementalists are really stuck in a conundrum,
trade and economics affects all values
Posted by: Oakey at March 29, 2004 04:24 PM
http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=18262
Ya and Bush won't let Condi testify because of "seperation of powers"
Posted by: Oakey at March 29, 2004 04:52 PM
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"So, don't gasp in horror when it happens, and act as if something extraordinary is happenning, as it probably will happen."
those words will come back to haunt you...
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How so?
Again, I'm no fan of extraditing infringers (or even prosecuting infringers, for that matter -- remember, if it were up to me, I'd repeal all intellectual property laws.)
Prosecution for infringement is predictable. Extradition for infringement is pretty much up to whatever foreign state makes a request. Since most of the intellectual property being protected belongs to U.S. persons and businesses, most of the extradtition requests are going to emanate from the U.S. But, sooner or later, some foreign owner of IP is going to get hacked off about piracy, and sic his government on a U.S. infringer.
I'm not saying that it's wise. But it would be fairly routine, in legal terms.
That's all.
Extraordinary extradtion requests are along the lines of the one Marcos seved on the U.S. for the extradition of Aquino, for allegedly plotting to overthrow Marcos while a lecturer at Harvard. It was withdrawn under political pressure. That's special.
A request for extradition os someone who is allegedly violating clearly-established law is nothing special.
Posted by: Great Satan at March 29, 2004 05:38 PM